tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post2075482148172788513..comments2023-05-26T13:50:24.027+05:30Comments on Pangala's Thoughts to Arise and Awake: Do we need to Invent of New Social Law? : Take A CallAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13215473023968525750noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-60953096663971692512009-02-07T22:43:00.000+05:302009-02-07T22:43:00.000+05:30@Yogs:Thanks for commenting!! As I have already co...@Yogs:<BR/>Thanks for commenting!! <BR/>As I have already commented while replying IHM, culture at present world can not be defined as uniform and applicable far over. You are right in saying that media can play a major role in culture development. But I think there are quite a few channels where cultural programs are broad-casted. But very less people watch those. Because it is the mind set of the people who wants only time moving temporary relaxing enjoyment termed as entertainment. Many people watch KBC while only few can found watching other more tougher quiz competitions. All these are to be developed from childhood itself.<BR/><BR/>As you rightly said every should be given freedom in choosing the faith and culture. But this is acceptable when the freedom given is rightly used, or otherwise it may make thing worse and we may loose the identity. Well, of-course this doesn't mean that we have to be 'watch dogs' of what some people preach or say in the name of "Indian Culture". First thing is everyone should be allowed to think themselves and then the decision taken by him will be for his own life and no one other has any business in it unless it effects them. Final theory is "Live and let other live".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215473023968525750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-22306189666184683272009-02-07T20:25:00.000+05:302009-02-07T20:25:00.000+05:30Ya, and i forgot to mention..I like your post. The...Ya, and i forgot to mention..<BR/>I like your post. The content is goodyogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01773405118380699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-4221372558296630582009-02-07T20:24:00.000+05:302009-02-07T20:24:00.000+05:30Hi Pangala,I still feeling that if one wants to pr...Hi Pangala,<BR/>I still feeling that if one wants to promote the culture, then it be again through media. For example, instead of reality shows that depict the western culture openly, they could actually have a competition on indian culture and the most cultural person will win the show. For example, they could have quizzes and songs on scriptures, classic poetry, folk dances, etc.<BR/><BR/>Also since language promotes culture, let both media and government give incentives to regional languages and the person achieving scholarship in those subjects.<BR/><BR/>Let the person himself/herself decide their path, instead of having a watchdog who would penalize/punish the youngsters for "violation" of indian culture.<BR/><BR/>Why not these watchdogs spend money on organizing seminars on poetry and such stuff and also ensuring that these are not mixed with elections and parties?<BR/><BR/>I see only politics and nothing else. the Rama Sena got famous overnight and they have chosen a good time "Valentines Day", "Elections approaching",etc. and added to it the state government's support.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Lets stop deciding the freedom limit for youngsters and lets establish a social orders for those "watchdogs"...yogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01773405118380699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-13713755699447079512009-02-06T09:36:00.000+05:302009-02-06T09:36:00.000+05:30@IHM:Yes, It is the thought waves that can change ...@IHM:<BR/>Yes, It is the thought waves that can change the world. We should open our minds also try to open the mindset of people. I think that is the reason why we are here in this blog sphere!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215473023968525750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-84011315325609293652009-02-06T02:10:00.000+05:302009-02-06T02:10:00.000+05:30Mr Pangala Yes I think you are right! ... I wish m...Mr Pangala Yes I think you are right!<BR/> ... I wish more of us start thinking like this!Indian Home Makerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649133480442907582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-57674256824113720392009-02-06T02:01:00.000+05:302009-02-06T02:01:00.000+05:30At present world of globalisation it is really har...At present world of globalisation it is really hard and also meaningless to define culture for all which applicable everywhere.Moreover culture, law all are dependant on the time and place. Final aim is as u pointed out is to live in peace and harmony. Religion and its derived culture all are for the welfare of humanity and it should not happen that humanity pays for it. <BR/>In my understanding Hinduism accepts everything which allows the humanity to live with harmony among each other and to achieve the meaning in life. Some people believe in God, some won't and starting from this there are lots of differences when we go to minute level throughout Bharat. And it is keep on changing. If we study Ramayana and Mahabharata, there itself there are lots of differences in terms of social laws. But people at that time were open to changes and understood the need of their current society and lived in harmony. Now man's mindset has become more selfish to gain every possible desires on earth in the name of religion, culture, tradition. This should be stopped. People to be made understand that Hindu is very very vast word which can not be covered in any religious book and can not be governed by definable cultures. Hinduism preaches about the welfare of humanity as a whole with giving all freedom to each individual.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215473023968525750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-8244258546114864872009-02-06T01:36:00.000+05:302009-02-06T01:36:00.000+05:30Yes, Mr Pangala I really hope we do :)I am never a...Yes, Mr Pangala I really hope we do :)<BR/><BR/>I am never able to define <B>'culture' </B> but ...<BR/>Why do we feel the need to preserve it? <BR/>So that we can all live in peace and harmony? ... I feel there is enough place in Hinduism to accommodate and accept a diverse kind of people ... we have always been a very liberal religion.<BR/><BR/>Religion and culture seem to be creating so much hatred, they are both too open to misuse by all these people ... we have forgotten what culture is. Everybody has started thinking our culture is against change ... <BR/><BR/>What are your views?Indian Home Makerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649133480442907582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-46389847829415760982009-02-06T01:13:00.000+05:302009-02-06T01:13:00.000+05:30@IHM:Heartful thanks for taking care to comment. Y...@IHM:<BR/>Heartful thanks for taking care to comment.<BR/> Yes, There are voices from both side. Some say cause of act is good and not the act, some say these kind of act are required where the law and police can't do any thing for "Saving Women" (Sorry Mothers and Sisters!!) or "Hindu Culture" from jehadis!! Ofcourse, there are people who also raised right voice against this act of hooliganism. Finally the people who committed the assault are now moving free!! That is what worries me. Because in the end even our law couldn't able to do to at least discourage those mindset from being acting like this. <BR/>As my native is near to Mangalore, after I saw this incident on TV I investigated the incident with my relatives and friends there and found that all was set up previously!! Sri Ram Sene chief who didn't got ticket from BJP for MP election who left Bajrang Dal to start this Sene who was looking forward to gain publicity as Raj Thakery was doing in Mumbai. Media was previously informed, which can be clearly understood by the video clippings' capture. And the media which now shouts as National Shame, Hindu Taliban and all words with a hidden agenda of TRP and other marketing values doesn't cared at least to call the police. All this was according to the chief Muthalik. Then the drama of arrest and bail and claiming that those people who misbehaved were not Sainikas!! is all just went well to get Sri Ram Sene in news for a week time. And now a small political party and its leader are in the words of national news and that too for wrong reason!! And believe me he is getting support there in my native!! <BR/>Any how I won't either support pub culture. But not for the reason that it is against our tradition but for the reason that it is not the way to relax ourself and spend some time freeing our mind. Pub / parties can not make us to handle stressful moments easily and to live happy in each piece of life. It only addicts us adhere with it.<BR/> One hope is that now we have blog sphere to speak out the truth to the people who wants the truth to come out. <BR/> There are natural differences between men and women which is assigned by almighty. But these differences are not such that women are to taken cared by always and men can decide upon them. Most of the people wrongly interpret Manu Smriti verse saying for a girl in Childhood father is take carer in young age it is husband and in old age it is sons and girl doesn't need freedom. People always meant this as girls will be under these men namely father,husband and sons. But actually it should be otherway. That is it is responsibility of these persons to ensure that they take the care of girl in such a way that she doesn't need to worry about herself in society. Of Course this is not to restrict the freedom of girls. It is to restrict the act of men to make sure that girl's freedom does not harmed. But who is ready to understand the right meaning!! <BR/> Finally it is media which is playing with the news and facts. There are many incidents like rape and murder of women in slum areas. In fact recently serial killing housewives is occurred in Bangalore!! I think this is more important than the incident which media shown as national outrage!! <BR/> Unless the fact of all these are presented to people things won't get well. Very less people in India login for blogs. Many depend on the same media which hides, manipulate and sometime manufactures the news for TRP. Atlest for the time being I am satisfied that I could reach some people to tell the truth which I believe in!! One day we will make our voices heard and also make life of people like Muthalik hell by our words!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215473023968525750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-74800429661492085272009-02-05T23:57:00.000+05:302009-02-05T23:57:00.000+05:30Nice post. And I am so glad to see a man protestin...Nice post. And I am so glad to see a man protesting against these acts of violence against women. <BR/><BR/>I saw some blogs which talk about teaching women a lesson because they say drinking and talking to men in against our culture. I have read of Sita and Parvati's Som Ras , so even if it is about culture it is not correct, they are only using culture as an excuse, or maybe they are talking about the way people live in the slums, where anybody can beat anybody... my maid's brother in law dragged her by her hair because he wanted to take the water from the water tanker first!<BR/><BR/>I think one problem is that there are so many Indias, so many different cultures. Is it right to force the culture of one group on another?<BR/><BR/>And I wonder if these people even cared about culture, these men have political backing and they clearly wanted publicity. <BR/><BR/>What I find frightening is that some people are actually arguing if this was right or wrong!<BR/><BR/>In a country as diverse as India, we have to live with 'Live and Let Live' philosophy otherwise there never will be any peace... <BR/><BR/>Hindu values of tolerance, liberalism, acceptance and non violence have kept this culture alive for so many years, now I wonder if Hinduism will survive or be lost to political gains ... they use the names of Hindu Gods to acheive their ends.<BR/><BR/>Also I wonder if any kind of Militant Groups should be permitted in a civilised nation?<BR/><BR/>Came here blog hopping, this attack has I think worried all families because tomorrow it can give any body an excuse to molest or beat any girl and then say he was trying to teach her a lesson!Indian Home Makerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649133480442907582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-14315387899041220302009-02-04T09:52:00.000+05:302009-02-04T09:52:00.000+05:30@Anrosh:Yes, Beacuse the old Social Laws which res...@Anrosh:<BR/>Yes, Beacuse the old Social Laws which restricted many independance of women and which is now also carried by many of middle class families the fanatic people are getting support for the act which they tell the cause is right!! We people who demands for free society are villain for them!! My intention was to make the large people of India to understand why and how the social laws are brought before and it is not always the same in the all the time. It changed many times and it has to change. In Vedic terms there are 2 things one is Shruti and other Smriti. Shruti tells about the goals and values of each individual life based on the work (Karma) a man does. And Smriti is one which is written by great saints of the age depending on the need of current society to achieve Shruti written values of life. That is how it was going in our old days also and that is how it should move now also.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215473023968525750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-18252412585386883162009-02-04T03:24:00.000+05:302009-02-04T03:24:00.000+05:30rao, of course social ( unwritten ) laws demanded ...rao, of course social ( unwritten ) laws demanded that women should wear a purdah.<BR/><BR/>girls could not go to school<BR/><BR/>widows cannot remarry while men can marry women as much as possible.<BR/><BR/>the good law that has taken place is - increase the age bar of women to marry to prevent child marriage)<BR/><BR/>the rich seldom follow laws, while the middle class are stuck in following them only to follow middle class values. it is trap ! it is a noose - nobody looks up to a follower when they need inspiration. everybody looks up to the one who is a leader/role model or who has taken initative ( i am refering to middle class )<BR/><BR/>chow !<BR/>anroshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-77638752153177300732009-02-03T10:17:00.000+05:302009-02-03T10:17:00.000+05:30@Anrosh:It is theoretical to say law and culture a...@Anrosh:<BR/>It is theoretical to say law and culture are different things, But it is inter linked to each other. I'm not here telling about the constitutional laws stating about what should we follow as a culture, I am saying about the law in the mindset of people regarding culture. I agree there is wrong in using the word law for it! for that reason only i have put it as Social law or better termed as Social Conduct. <BR/>But I am worried about that those people are now roaming free. But anyhow that incident shown the world there are strong voices against such fanatic crime inside India which I am sure will emerge to eradicate such social evils from our great soil!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215473023968525750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-54304484807309763142009-02-03T06:27:00.000+05:302009-02-03T06:27:00.000+05:30law and culture are two different things.are you t...law and culture are two different things.<BR/><BR/>are you telling me that there will be law stating that i cannot eat with a a fork and spoon in india.<BR/><BR/>and i have "eat" my soup with hands<BR/><BR/>It is time for elections in the new future and they are moving away from pressing issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-251604680086212977.post-58537241252222124482009-02-02T17:05:00.000+05:302009-02-02T17:05:00.000+05:30you have been tagged:)http://ofsongsforthesoul.blo...you have been tagged:)<BR/>http://ofsongsforthesoul.blogspot.com/2009/02/tagged-once-more.htmlIndyeahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05915739361027887530noreply@blogger.com